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Paul - Apostle of Jesus or Founder of Christianity.


    Was Paul an apostle of Jesus Christ or was he the Founder of what is called Christianity today?  We will take a closer look at Paul and his teachings compared to what Jesus taught.  Paul’s writings predate the authorship of the gospels.  His teachings disagree with those of Jesus.  Most of the New Testament doesn’t concern the historical Jesus or his teachings.  Jesus preached and enlightened form of Judaism.  Today, there are no known writings from Jesus and what he taught and therefore lost forever.  No writings exist from the apostles of anyone that was supposed to have known him..  Paul never met Jesus in the flesh; rather, he claimed some kind of vision of him that converted him.  However, based upon Paul’ own writings, even that claim may have been manufactured   We will take a much closer look at his paganizing of Christianity

Compare these two verses in Acts:  Could this be a beginning of Paul’s lies?


Act 9:7  And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

Act 22:9  And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.  


     Most Christians regard Jesus as the foundation of their  belief, based upon the events of his life as told in the gospels.  Though  this may be true it is Paul that is considered  the interpreter of Jesus’ mission.  He taught in a way, that Jesus never did, about his life,death, and how he fit into the salvation story.  The teachings of Paul would stretch from Adam to the end of time, injecting his influence along the way.  Paul was to have been from a line of Pharisees of the tribe of Benjamin, which ceased to exist long before his time, but Pharisee families in Tarsus were unknown of at the time.   In his youth  he was known as Saul of Tarsus and a tent maker by trade.  (Could this have been his first stretch of imagination?)    He was believed to have come from a family of recent converts to Judaism.  This may account for his miss quoting of OT scripture when posing as a rabbi before his conversion to Christ, as he called it.  Marcion, a Gnostic heretic, would later place Paul over his Christian-Jewish rivals.    


  In his youth, Saul, would be a major persecutor of the newly formed Jerusalem Church which was founded by the disciples of  Jesus   Saul   would enter into its synagogues and arrest its members.  Acts tells of Saul’s zeal  as a Pharisee, but the Pharisees were friendly to the newly  formed church, so even this is doubt full.  (read acts 5)  Acts 9:2 has



Saul  working as an employee of the Roman  appointed high priest who was a   Sadducee and in opposition to the Pharisees.  Saul  was probably playing the role of a policeman suppressing movements which the Romans seen as a threat to their occupation.   


     Appointed by the high priest, Saul was to go to Damascus and there to arrest Important members of the Jerusalem church.  Damascus, at this time, was not under Roman rule, rather, it was a safe haven for the persecuted members of the Jerusalem Church.   It was on this mission that Paul had a vision which converted him to a believer in Christ.  While in Damascus Paul joined the Christians, later he was  to flee for his life.  There are two conflicting accounts as follows:


2 Co 11:32  In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:

Act 9:23  And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:


    It is important to note that neither Jesus nor his disciples had any intention of founding a new religion; a new church yes.  There was a need for continuity  between Judaism and Christianity and between the Gentile  and the Jewish community.  The split that occurred between Paul and the  Jerusalem Church, as contained in Galatians 2 and played down it the book of Acts, allowed Paul to found his version of Christianity based upon  the mystery religions of the past.  


     Paul did not view Jesus as the Jewish Messiah, rather, he viewed him as a salvation deity similar to the violent deaths of Attis, Adonis, Dionysus, and Osiris.   Paul was a Hellenistic Jew and well versed in the mystery religions.  By portraying Jesus as a salvation figure, he was

able to inject the Eucharist., a communion meal of the mystery religions, into the Last Supper accounts.


1 Co 11:23  For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

1 Co 11:24  And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Co 11:25  After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

1 Co 11:26  For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come.


    Paul’s missions began circa 44  AD. In Antioch,  and continued until his death in 68 AD,   Paul was a religious genius, for  he knew his new salvation cult religion had the advantage over the others, being tied to the Jewish scriptures.  He was now able to re-interpret these same scriptures as forecasting the salvation death of Jesus.  This new religion proved very attractive to the gentiles of the time who where thirsting for salvation.  His new doctrine was brought into question in circa 50 AD by the Jerusalem Church, where it was regarded as a lapse into paganism.  Paul was able to conceal his belief that the Torah was no longer valid for Gentiles nor Jews and was confirmed as an apostle to the Gentiles with permission to enroll Gentiles in the messianic movement.  It was not until 5 years later that Paul’s  deception was detected in a second meeting between Paul and the Jerusalem Church.   It was during this meeting when Paul declared he was a Roman Citizen and wanted protection from the Roman Police, as he feared for his life.  This announcement by Paul end his affiliation with the Jerusalem Church, for Romans were their main enemy.


Books of the Bible Authored by Paul



I Corinthians

II Corinthians





I Thessalonians

II Thessalonians

I Timothy

II Timothy



Hebrews  (Anonymous)


Approximate  Date of NT Books


James (50 AD) Opposed Paul

Paul’s Books + Hebrews (50-64 AD)

Mark (70 AD)

Matthew, Luke/Acts (70-80 AD) Luke and Acts Were One Work

I, II, III Peter (65-80 AD)

Revelations (81-96 AD).

Gospel of John (96+ AD)

I, II, III John (96+ AD)

Jude (?)  



     The main basis for Christian dogma is attributed to Paul.  Paul promoted the concept that  the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ done away with the Mosaic Law.  Paul conceived the idea of original sin for it appears only in his writings and nowhere else in the Bible.    Paul developed the concept that the spirit was equal to that of the Father and Son, which later became the basis for the trinity.  Paul spoke only of the spiritual Christ for he had no interest in the life of Jesus or those who did.   Paul lays claim to being sent directly by God to be an apostle and therefore claimed a direct line to God,   


1 Co 1:1  Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,  


     Paul further claims all are being punished for Adams sin but what does God have to say about that?

Eze 18:5  But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,  ........... Eze 18:9  Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.  Eze 18:10  If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things, ...........Eze 18:13  Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.  

So we see that only the sinner will be punished for his sins alone and not for the sins of others or those he did not commit.

     So we see that Paul lies and contradicts God once more.  As Jesus never mentioned Adam or the Garden,  We can see that this concept is Paul’s only.  Paul also furthers the concept of no death until the fall of Adam in the garden.


Rom 5:14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

1 Co 15:22  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.


Paul also misquotes the OT Torah and once again contradicts what God says.  


Rom 4:2  For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Rom 4:3  For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Rom 4:4  Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

Rom 4:5  But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Heb 11:17  By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,


Here is what God has to say:

Gen 22:16  And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

Gen 22:17  That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

Gen 22:18  And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

So we can see Abraham did not OFFER up his son, rather he only followed God’s instructions.


And what does Paul have to say about God’s Law?


Gal 3:10  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Gal 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Gal 3:12  And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Gal 3:13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Law is a curse or does he mean Jesus is a Curse.  See what Jesus and God have to say about the Law.


Jesus says the following:

Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Joh 7:49  But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.

And here is what God has to say

Deu 27:26  Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.


Paul’s followers Mark Luke, and Peter  (especially Peter being one of the original 12) disobeyed Jesus by preaching to the Gentiles..

Here is what Jesus commanded:

Mat 10:5  These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Mat 10:6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


    More of Paul:s contradictions are included in the errors and contradiction pages of this site.  Was Paul a liar  in order to gain converts to his new religion that is today called Christianity?  Please consider the following passages from Paul's own writings.  


Rom 3:7  For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?   


Does Paul consider lies and bearing false witness a legitimate way to gain converts?  Consider the following.


1 Co 9:20  And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

1 Co 9:21  To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

1 Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.


We leave you to decide if Paul was an apostle of Jesus or was he the founder of Christianity based upon the earlier Mystery Religions.


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